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(9546 hits. Posted 2004/06/16)
### hidden thorough decaying at thief gm
### (Yes I know I got complained at by gods for this)
### and this happens

o CSW>
You attempt to hide yourself.

Amuk narrates 'anyone got spare kit?'
                                                                               O                                      k.

o CSW>
Dorlok has arrived from the south.

o CSW>
Dorlok closes the stonedoor.

o CSW>
Dorlok narrates 'Btw kraksh never goes on the hunt any more ?'

o CSW>
You are hungry.
You are thirsty.

o CSW>
Dorlok opens the stonedoor.

o CSW>
Dorlok leaves south.

o CSW>
The stonedoor closes quietly.

o CSW>
The stonedoor is opened from the other side.

o CSW>
Noomie has arrived from the south.
Dorlok narrates 'back in'

o CSW>
Noomie sits down and rests.

o CSW>
Noomie stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

o CSW>
Noomie closes the stonedoor.

o CSW>
Noomie sits down and rests.


o CSW>
Noomie stops resting, and clambers on his feet.

o CSW>
Noomie opens the stonedoor.

o CSW>
Noomie leaves south.

o CSW>
You are hungry.
You are thirsty.

o CSW>
Amuk narrates 'takhr moving'

o CSW>
Murdoc narrates 'where are my protectors! :)'

o CSW>
Snarp narrates 'they doing takhr'

o CSW>
Murdoc narrates 'wher?'

o CSW>
Amuk narrates 'takhr dying'

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'where'

o CSW>
Snarp narrates 'at monitor'

o CSW>
Amuk narrates 'monitor room'

o CSW>
Dorlok narrates 'tahkr not dead yet'

o CSW>
Snarp narrates 'it will take em ages'

o CSW>
Fone narrates 'I wanna rent :p'

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'no i dont'

o CSW>

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'its fun'

o CSW>
Dorlok narrates 'will pop b4 tahkr dies'

o CSW>
Fone narrates 'I need shower tho'

o CSW>
You are hungry.
You are thirsty.

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'all gnarleds dead ?'

o CSW>
Shahid narrates 'where takhr?'

o CSW>
Amuk narrates 'takhr was dying at monitor'

o CSW>
Gristle narrates 'koljat eating shatters btw'

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'lets jump'

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* places a barbed fang in the back of Kraksh the orc
scout, resulting in some strange noises and some blood.
Kraksh the orc scout says 'Bastard! I'll get you for that, Zaugurz Orc!'

o CSW>
Kraksh the orc scout tries to pierce *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*, but he parries
successfully.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, but can't stop fighting to flee.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves south.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
Kraksh the orc scout pierces *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*'s left foot extremely
hard.

o CSW>
Kraksh the orc scout swiftly dodges *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*'s attempt to pierce
him.

o CSW>
Kraksh the orc scout swiftly dodges *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*'s attempt to pierce
him.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves south.

o CSW>
Timur narrates 'come blasted and lets jump'

o CSW>
Snarp narrates 'crack pop'

o CSW>
Kraksh the orc scout catches Someone by surprise.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
Kraksh the orc scout tries to pierce *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*, but he parries
successfully.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* tries to pierce Kraksh the orc scout, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, but can't stop fighting to flee.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* tries to pierce Kraksh the orc scout, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves south.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* places a barbed fang in the back of Kraksh the orc
scout, resulting in some strange noises and some blood.
Kraksh the orc scout is mortally wounded and will die soon if not aided.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* pierces Kraksh the orc scout's body extremely hard and
shatters it.
Your blood freezes as you hear Kraksh the orc scout's death cry.
Kraksh the orc scout is dead! R.I.P.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* gets a pile of coins from the corpse of Kraksh the orc
scout.

o CSW>

o CSW>
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the south.

o CSW>
An elite orc-guard tries to cleave *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* tries to pierce an elite orc-guard, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves south.

o CSW>
An elite orc-guard leaves south.

o CSW>
You are hungry.
You are thirsty.

o CSW>
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the south.

o CSW>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
Suddenly *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* stabs you in the back.
That really HURT!

o CSW HP:Hurt *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*:Fine>
An elite orc-guard cleaves *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*'s left arm and tickles it.
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the south.

o CSW HP:Hurt *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*:Hurt>
You flee head over heels.
Roughly Carved Tunnel
Exits: (north), east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the north.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* has arrived from the north.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* swiftly dodges an elite orc-guard's attempt to cleave
him.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* closes the crack.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
The crack is opened from the other side.
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the north.
An elite orc-guard closes the crack.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard pauses to get his bearings.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* swiftly dodges an elite orc-guard's attempt to cleave
him.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* tries to pierce an elite orc-guard, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* swiftly dodges an elite orc-guard's attempt to cleave
him.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, but can't stop fighting to flee.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Amuk narrates 'takhr died?'
An elite orc-guard leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard has arrived from the east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Fone narrates 'nope'


o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard pauses to get his bearings.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
An elite orc-guard tries to cleave *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*, but he parries
successfully.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Gristle narrates 'nope'

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* panics, and attempts to flee.
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
An elite orc-guard leaves east.

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Timur narrates 'lets jummmp'

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Amuk narrates 'we hit them? or?'

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Timur narrates 'we hit'

o CSW HP:Hurt>
Shahid narrates 'where takhr'

o CSW HP:Hurt>
*Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* leaves his hiding place.
Suddenly *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc* stabs you in the back.
You are mortally wounded and will die soon if not aided.

o CSW HP:Dying *Otyg the Zaugurz Orc*:Fine>
You lost great renown in this battle!
Ouch! You lose a level!

You are dead! Sorry...


### i'm posting cause I complained so this shows what happened
### but really I am always half working while playing, so I idle
### a lot - and its frustrating when you idle in what you think
### is a safe place (hidden t there is basically 100% safe unless
### pukes raid) - or someone cheats.

### So I think otyg cheated, came straight there killed kraksh,
### then searched me out and stabbed - with no way to tell i was
### there except seeing me there as his torc prior (since I was there
### for like 20* hours, I usually decay liek this with flash open above, so
### I can see what's happening - I forgot here and left computer on with
### mume open overnight in another workspace)

### Maybe I'm wrong though, and Otyg wanna explain.  Obviously
### I don't like afk/linkless killers and I personally don't do
### it, but cheating to know I'm there then coming to purposely
### kill me afk is pretty lame.


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2004/06/17 15:18, Tushie: 
the strangest part about this whole thing is Otyg's comments reread what he posted below and ask yourself do they confirm or deny that he cheated?

1) Only one breaking the rules here is you. I've never been valed etc in my whole mume career, I'd never cheat! Noc was dead so I ran around and searched for afkers :) Thats what this char is for!(Otyg points the finger at Nazgum)

2)Haha yeah I'm so not messing with you about that linklesskill! Oh noes!! Please god make it stop! I'll devote my life to better myself so you might remove me from the list in the future! Grow a brain. (Sarcarism)

3)Never killed a ranger as puke :/ Was Sardotjen! (points finger at Sardotjen)

4)Cleared my actions? I said I look for afkers, I check skulldoor etc, and when noc is raided there are no afkers at Takhr, there are tons of orcs there and usually Takhr never rips. I was in noc several times and sure as hell couldn't find any afkers there.(attempt to justify his actions)

'The trigger Nazgum was using so that he could continue playing when he wasn't busy but at the same time he wanted to keep his Linkdrop in case he loses link. '

Erhm he said he had train all and hide triggered every 3 mins.. (points finger at Nazgum)

And you are all taking this god damn sucky game far too serious.(accusation) By god, I lost respect for some idiots who I don't even know! How ever will I be able to continue with my life. I should prolly end my miserable life right now. (Sarcasim)

I'm soooo sorry for this! I don't know what on earth I was thinking! Perhaps I dont give a crap? Stop living in the world where you are cuddling with carebears and licking lolipops. (Sarcasim)

Did Otgy do it? Judge for yourself. His defence is certainly full of holes, care to explain without calling names and pointing fingers how you found Nazgum?



2004/06/17 15:25, Tushie: 
make sure your armour is fresh before pk and put shield spell up and don't carry too much equip

2004/06/17 15:25, Khree:   
When will you peabrains realise that its ok to kill people
that is afk.. !

2004/06/17 15:31, Seldaran: 
I know I know! To piss people like Nazgum off :P

2004/06/17 15:38, Björn: 
It comes with the stabber mentality.

Also, I bet management thinks it's justified to crossrace cheat in order to kill afkers and linkless people.

2004/06/17 17:08, Tach: 
elestir talking about people being lame? gimme a break!

2004/06/17 17:47, User requested to be deleted:   
nice kill :)

2004/06/17 19:14, Sogard:   
Don't alot of orcs forgo high awareness due to natural infravision(I do atleast, to conserve pracs)? Besides, you'd have to have max awareness and be in alert paranoid to have any chance whatsoever of seeing a highlvl thief using hide thoro when simply walking in and out of rooms.

2004/06/17 19:38, Otyg:   
Tushie, Ill let you try to figure that out, but since you arent so bright Ill give you a hint. Try reading comments.

Ah hell, you still wouldnt get it, would you? Ill copy past my answer I already wrote.

'I said I look for afkers, I check skulldoor etc, and when noc is raided there are no afkers at Takhr, there are tons of orcs there and usually Takhr never rips. I was in noc several times and sure as hell couldn't find any afkers there.'

Now Sandy, check the first sentence. '...I check skulldoor etc...' and '...when noc is raided there are no afkers at Takhr...'

I could even add that I've idle at the same places as Nazgum with Dunir and died aswell. There are a few places where more careful players idle and everyone knows it. Skulldoor, Treedoor, GG, Foreman, Scout trainer and below GG.

Did you see me whine when I died with Dunir? No, hell no! Thats because you take a risk when afking, life is a bitch, learn to deal with it.

2004/06/17 19:45, Nazgum: 
you know for all your flames and arguments Otyg you never answered my question which was simply how did you know I was there/find me - and why did you enter there exactly like you knew I was there and expecting a kill.

That's it - I don't really care I died afk - I think people are losers for killing afk, but that's not my issue - mine is how did you know I was there when I was hidden thorough.

You knew elites were coming for you while you were killing kraksh - but you stayed to search me out and kill without knowing I was there - it makes no sense to me except to say you knew I was there illegally.

The whole point of me posting the log was so you could answer that question - but you never did you just flame everyone and still don't answer it.

but ok whatever it doesn't really matter anyways right.

2004/06/17 19:54, Otyg:   
Ill explain once again, I check all those 'safe' places when I get a chance, ie when pukes are raiding or orcs are clearing whole noc.
Though luck, I was online when pukes cleared noc.

2004/06/17 20:22, Tushie: 
Did you play dunir or some other t-orc earlier that day? and second question when was the last time you stabbed thief guild master dead with otyg and revealed/flushed?

2004/06/17 20:36, Aschit: 
Notes about search and reveal: You do *not* always see when someone has successfully searched you out. In fact, you don't always (I think) even get the message that they are searching for you. With reveal, you should always get the 'found' message, and you always see when they are looking for you. Search not being 100% visible to the hider/sneaker is the advantage it was given to make up for the fact that search only reveals hidden to yourself and reveal shows the hidden to your whole group in room.

I have no idea if Otyg cheated or not, but it's not unbelievable that a scout would enter a room and see a hidden person, even hidden thorough. I've gotten many kills where I stab people that thought they were safely hidden (most frequently is when I manage to enter the room before they are completely hidden, thus they get the 'Ok.' message even though I saw them).

2004/06/17 21:10, Otyg:   
Whenever I get the chance. Hmm 42 hours is the earliest I logged a torc.

Now for an inside scoop, I'm done explaining myself, I didnt do anything wrong. However its fun that Nazgum gets away when others have been demoted for the same thing! But as the old saying goes,

but ok whatever it doesn't really matter anyways right.

2004/06/17 21:43, Tushie: 
That was all you had to say, 'I couldn't have know I wasn't playing t-orc.' Last question how did you see nazgum, did you use reveal? flush?

2004/06/18 04:50, Razoor: 
It's not like p(Dunir) has to cheat to get kills...seriously doubt he did it now.

2004/06/18 04:56, Sogard: 
Entering when they are still hiding is one thing aschit, but Nazgum was already hidden before Otyg came. A high-level, high-skill hide thoro should be damn near impossible to find. I've had Vairr hide in the open from me and be 100% unrevealable to different pukes, with the worst being when he was hidden in a field from my bear when it had 50-something awareness, and was alert paranoid(tracks had not left the room, and I could see 'hidden presence'. Guess the only place left to idle safely is hidden at GG.

Kinda fucked up how if Karash doesn't hunt, his guards do though. :P

2004/06/18 07:20, Ôstu:   
With some pracs in search and some awareness it takes 'search th' to reveal anything of any level hiding anywhere.

2004/06/18 16:23, Sardotjen:   
Tushie your post was both sarcaristic and sarcamsistic! Impressive.

2004/06/19 15:58, Enomdan:   
I know friends of pOtyg that says he uses cheats! Blah! Get rid of the junk! :]

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